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rainiergoats
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 RE: cutler wants out of denver (in reply to Tony Ionno)
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As a Broncos fan of many years, I have to say that I'm now starting to side with the Broncos organization here. They don't need to kiss Cutler's ass. He's their employee!! They are being very professional about this, he is not. He is certainly not endearing himself with Bronco nation at this point.
I like Cutler as a quality player and would love to see him stick in Denver...I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he's just young and naive (heck Elway was), but he definitely needs to be aware of his circumstances else he end up on a perrenial losing team like the Lions and wind up with a Jake Plummer-like career.
All that said, the media is still sensationalizing this story with speculations and poor journalism like the ESPN report where they put facts together to speculate that the situation has gotten worse. The facts are: 1) The Broncos organization told it like it is...this is a business--any player can be traded if it is for the good of the business; 2) Cutler still thinks he's tradeable because rumors he's heard has made him not trust anything he hears; and 3) Pat Bowlen said they aren't trading him.
Well yeah, Cutler is right...he is tradeable. So are all the other players in the league. That doesn't mean the Broncos are going to trade him, and even if they did, the bottom line is that the Denver Broncos are a business and will make moves that they feel make the business more successful. Sure, loyalty and appreciation for your employees is important, but pandering to the selfish needs of those employees just so they can feel "all important" isn't all that important.
If you read the ESPN story, you'll see there are two conflicting "inside sources", so this is where the sensationalizing is happening. Cutler may end up getting traded after all is said and done as a team could present an offer that the Broncos simply can't refuse, but ESPN has to watch it here as they are spinning this in such a way as to suggest one inside source (the source that's creating the most buzz) is weighted more than the other.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3968896&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
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| 3/11/2009 4:10:05 PM |
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Averien
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RE: cutler wants out of denver (in reply to armakh)
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I, personally, side with Cutler AND the Broncos... and against McDaniels.
Cutler has an ego, no doubt. At the same time, the Broncos have deliberately fed it: they made him the face of the organization. They pushed the team around him; they made *him* the focus of the team, and y'know what? He embraced it. He put his entire self into the Broncos. As a fan, I want that. I want someone to be pissed about being asked to leave their home team. I don't see this so much as a "I'm too valuable" to be traded so much as a "I am too invested to be traded *without talking with me first*." In the days of free agency, it seems continuity of a team is sacrificed for the almighty dollar... as a fan I am nostalgic for the days when "team" meant *TEAM*, not just the guys I'm with this season. That's part of what makes Elway, Marino, Sanders, and their like so special: they spent their whole career with one team. You can't think of Elway without thinking Denver-- that's the way it should be, at least in my opinion.
That said, Bowlen also handled it right-- "We're not trading Jay." Not, "We can't" (because Goat's right-- every player is, at least theoretically, on the trading block), but "We aren't". He's not indispensable to the team, but he is part of it, and he's a part of it that we want to build around-- and, frankly, already have largely built around.
I suspect that Jay's agent has some hand in the fueling process, seeing an opportunity (perhaps) to settle his client with a restructured contract (though, of course, I am pulling that out of my ass).
More than that, though, McDaniels just showed his youth, and some of the Belicheckian mentality he was trained with, albeit misapplied. Some things you just don't do in the NFL, and letting a player hear about a possible trade deal through the media is one of them. I really don't blame Cutler for the rift, because sure, he's an employee and in the NFL that basically means property, but it'd be a huge stab in the back to not be made aware by your leader.
For McDaniels to bring the Patriot Way with him, team unity *has* to be the primary concept-- and McDaniels is part of that team. Unity demands accountability, and it demands forthrightness and honesty. Opposing teams may hate Belicheat, but his players, from all I have read, love him. He is honest and blunt with them; he doesn't coddle so much, but I don't hear any hint of him doing anything that could be even considered deceiving them. It's one thing for McDaniels to listen to offers-- and even to offer counter offers. But as soon as the phone is hung up, he needs to be on the phone, letting Cutler know his name came up, he wasn't fished, he's NOT being traded, and explain that the reality of the business is that you listen to other teams, even if you have no real interest in a trade. The difference between it coming from your leader, and it feeling like your leader is hiding something from you is immense.
For any unit to work, you simply have to be able to trust. I don't know what McDaniels has said, but he was clearly, and completely, in the wrong with how he handled the situation. Not that Cutler hasn't over-reacted, but if McDaniels hasn't apologized personally and privately to Cutler-- not over the phone, in person like a fricking man-- then I don't blame Cutler for continuing to have trust issues.
Of course, if McDaniels has said, "Hey, I screwed up. I should have told you right away that your name came up. I didn't think-- but you are our QB, we have no desire to trade you to anyone. I want you to know that just because I'm hearing what other people are saying, and even engaging in dialogue for the sake of league politics, it does not mean I am even for a moment considering their offers," then yeah... Jay needs to take it like a man, get over, it, and bring the focus back to the team. But if Josh hasn't extended that branch, and given Jay the opportunity to apologize in kind, then the situation just isn't going to fix itself. I really don't think it's fair to ask any player to give as much of their life and body as an NFL player does to a coach that one cannot trust. Yeah, the money is great, but it has to be for the cost endured, especially for someone striving to be a star.
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| 3/12/2009 10:59:12 AM |
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NemosBucs
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RE: cutler wants out of denver (in reply to Averien)
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ORIGINAL: Averien
I suspect that Jay's agent has some hand in the fueling process, seeing an opportunity (perhaps) to settle his client with a restructured contract (though, of course, I am pulling that out of my ass).
Interesting article in the MileHighReport...here is a clip, link to whole article follows.
Jay Cutler Saga
This one has only just begun, but make no mistake, Bus Cook is after something, and he will use Cutler and the Broncos to get it. It could barely be avoided when it was about Bus, Favre and the Packers. Now it is about us, and we won't get away from it anytime soon. Before the Shanahan firing, Cook was sure that Cutler was going to get the largest contract in NFL history in 2010. But with the advent of McXanders, and the Broncos new cap-friendly cash plans, that contract isn't realistic. For the Broncos.
Cook allegedly pursued a trade upon Shanny's dismissal. That isn't about Cutler, it is about finding a team that can afford the 2010 record-contract.
Broncos deny those trades, and then teams approach the Broncos with contract offers, specifically Tampa Bay. Maybe there is no connection, but The Tampa Tribune has connections with Cook, and are usually the first to report on his moves. It is possible that Cook helped engage teams in pursuing a trade for Cutler.
The Broncos are trying to clear up this inexplicable mess. What they don't realize, is there is no cleanup possible as long as Cook is in control.
Notice the similarities between the "leaks," "rumors," and "talks" that have occurred between the Favre and Jay sagas.
With contract uncertainties existing for the future, and Cook's penchant and insatiable desire for long-term guarantees, there is no doubt that SOMETHING will have to happen. Cutler will have to fire Bus, or the Broncos will have to make a substantial contract extension offer, or a big-time trade will eventually come to pass.
The Broncos and Cutler need to take back control, because this Bus is destined for a crash.
MileHighReport
< Message edited by NemosBucs -- 3/13/2009 10:33:23 AM >
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